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Cultural Differences: Salad Before or After Dinner?

2008_10_02-saladtable.jpgAmericans have their salads right off the bat, prelude to the main event. At the very least, salad is served alongside the main course. In Europe, however, salad is often served after dinner. It's considered a cleansing finish before cheese or dessert. We know two people (both Americans) who do this, and they have different reasons why...

 
 

One is a Francophile who is adept in many things European when it comes to dining. She mixes it up at dinner parties, serving salad later in the evening as a refreshing end to a meal. It makes sense; you don't fill up on greens before the dish that's meant to be most satisfying, and some would say the ruffage aids in digestion.

The other person we know saves his salad because he likes his food piping hot. In other words, if the main dish is on the table (or near it), he's going to eat it first, before it gets cold. That chilly old salad can wait.

What about you? Did anyone grow up with the tradition of eating salad after the main course? Or have you adopted this practice as your own?

Related: Cheesemonger: The Dessert Course

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I grew up eating salad after dinner--my parents still do. We keep our dinner plates, my mom dresses the salad and toasts a bit of ciabatta or something (important to mop up the extra dressing) and we pass it around. These days if I'm making salad for me and my husband I serve it after the main course, or very occasionally alongside it, but if I'm doing a cold salad-type course for a dinner party I serve it before. That's more like a salad with a hot goat cheese cake, or a tomato salad or something. Now that I think of it I guess I haven't ever served a plain green salad before dinner. The vinegar is good for digestion, my mom says!

posted by katef on October 2nd 2008 at 10:48am
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At home, I prefer to eat salad after the main course. Oftentimes, salad dressings have a pretty strong flavor (and if they don't, I don't usually like them), so I don't want that to interfere with the main dish.

I agree that it's refreshing too...

posted by ottan on October 2nd 2008 at 11:24am
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In my family we usually have the salad in the middle--we eat a serving of the main dish, pause for salad, and then pick at the main dish until we are full.

posted by lcg on October 2nd 2008 at 11:36am
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I always eat salad after the main course, for both of the reasons mentioned.

posted by Korre on October 2nd 2008 at 11:45am
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We usually have salad after, although depending on what is being served, I may serve it alongside. Love it as a refreshing palate cleanser.

posted by mschatelaine on October 2nd 2008 at 11:53am
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We are green salads after dinner people. If it's something like Caprese Salad, or tomato, cucumber, & red onion, wilted spinach salad or other non-lettuce salads we'll eat it with dinner.

posted by bobcatsteph3 on October 2nd 2008 at 1:46pm
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I always eat the salad first as a way of filling up on vegetables before the main course (and therefore lowering the desire to eat as much of a main course). My husband eats his with the meal. We don't eat dessert so there's no need for a "palate cleanser".

The "roughage" aiding digestion is unrelated to eating before or after the meal. It's not like you digest so rapidly that eating it first is going to be meaningfully different than eating it last.

posted by Orchid64 on October 2nd 2008 at 3:29pm
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Yeah, as Orchid mentioned, during the average time span of a meal, it's going to end up being held in the stomach and mixed up. You're not going to end up with a big plug of fiber pushing the rest of your foodstuffs through your system.

posted by wunami on October 2nd 2008 at 3:34pm
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Oh right. I eat my salads before. Never really thought about it until now. I guess I just do it because that's they way it's done most of the time in the US.

posted by wunami on October 2nd 2008 at 3:35pm
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In Australia we mostly eat salads with our main meal - either served on the plate alongside the other food or in a large bowl in the middle of the table so you can help yourself. We never have separate salad plates - as the other small plate is used for bread.

So salads are made with the main meal in mind - as a compliment rather than a separate meal. Salad is a summer thing and vegetables tend to be the winter thing

Most Australians would find it quite strange to eat salad at other times. But I love that there can be such diversity for one dish!

posted by kristyr on October 2nd 2008 at 3:55pm
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In my family, we usually serve salad with the meal, and i always eat it last as a refresher, but I usually eat the vegetable component of the main dish first.

posted by kollros on October 2nd 2008 at 6:22pm
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My parents usually have salad after the main course, but I prefer it first... I'm much more aware of the subtle flavors of salad, and I savor every bite, when I'm hungry and my appetite is unspoiled. After the main course I'm full, I eat less salad (and so does everyone else, leading to pointless salad leftovers), and my senses are not as attuned to those delicate flavors, so I enjoy it less.

posted by sphinxie on October 2nd 2008 at 8:48pm
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We serve ours together, but I always eat my salad first. I'm not a big salad fan, and wouldn't put it past myself to "accidentally" fill up on yummy pasta or whatever the main dish and, oops, not have room for boring salad. I know that it's healthy for me, so I eat it first and get it out of the way. Plus, I hope that it fills me up with slightly fewer calories than my main dish will, so that I don't end up needing to buy new pants in a larger size.

posted by kls987 on October 3rd 2008 at 3:56am
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My parents always served/ate salad after dinner...I don't know if the habit came from my German grandfather...but yes, a palate-cleanser, and eating hot food right when it's ready...

posted by mgood on October 3rd 2008 at 5:12am
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Before. Well, sometimes I serve it as a side dish.

posted by whytephoenix on October 3rd 2008 at 9:40am
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I grew up eating them with the meal, but as an adult the placement of the salad isn't important to me. I'm equally content eating salad before, during or after the main course, so long as I *get* to eat salad.

Unless I'm dieting. Then salad first.

posted by seidhr on October 3rd 2008 at 9:42am
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In our house when there was a salad being served it WAS the meal. Our salads consisted of mostly non lettuce items like: raddishes, carrots, onion, corn (canned), artichoke hearts, sometimes palm hearts, spinach, sometimes beets. With that kind of effort and hearty-ness put into it, there was no room for a meal.

posted by nickel525 on October 3rd 2008 at 3:44pm
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Like most from the US, I grew up eating it in advance. I adopted the after practice, though, after a few visits to Italy. I especially like a salad after pizza or pasta. The hot, then cold makes sense to me. A salad is like a denouement to the meal, with the entree as the climax and the cheese/dessert/beverage at the proper end.

posted by Girl Detective on October 4th 2008 at 5:46am
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Uuumm... I´m European (German) and have never heard of the habit of eating salad after dinner ;-) It actually sounds strange to me...

posted by Lillian on October 6th 2008 at 5:20am
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I like to fill up on lots of salad greens first... that way I'm more inclined to get lots of phytonutrients and eat less of a heavier 'main' meal.

posted by VeryDelishVeg on January 3rd 2009 at 4:48pm
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