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Good Quote: Cooking Without Recipes from a Hmong Grandmother

2009-07-17-HmongCookingRecipes.jpgDuring the segment on Hmong cooking in last week's episode of Splendid Table, we were struck by one quote in particular. Sami Scripter describes her experience of talking to the Hmong elders about recipes that should be included in their seminal cookbook on Hmong cuisine:

I would ask the old people what was important...and I had more than one grandmother tell me, "You know, we don't need to write it down. We know how to do our cooking. And if we choose to cook another way, well then, that's what we'll be doing then. We don't need to have it written down!"

 
 

Isn't that amazing? Or maybe the amazing part is that it's amazing at all. Until relatively recently in our history, most home cooks in the United States also worked without a lot of recipes or cookbooks or favorite food blogs to help them along. They learned from their elders and adapted recipes to what was available - and probably didn't think it was a big deal at all!

Sometimes it's hard to remember that the oral tradition of learning to cook is part of our tradition as well. What dishes or basic techniques did you learn from someone else instead of in a cookbook? Who in your life has had the biggest influence on your cooking?

Related: Weekend Project: Close the Cookbook!

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I'm a big recipe follower, but when cooking Korean cuisine I rarely use a recipe. These are the dishes I learned to make from my mom, who has built up her recipe collection by memory and experience. I'm trying to get her to teach me how to make more of these dishes - Sujaebi, Hobak Jeon and Mandu guk are some of the ones we've gone through so far!

posted by minji on July 20th 2009 at 8:32am
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Most of the Lebanese recipes I make that I learned from my Sito and Jido I don't use a recipe for. I have their instructions like "put in enough rice until it looks like more rice than meat" etc. To me, it's the first steps in learning how to cook with the senses rather than strictly following a recipe and it's a skill that translates over even when I follow a recipe.

The only thing that worries me about that quote is the "if we choose to cook another way"... part. Not that they can't but I have a Greek friend whose mother refused to tell her children everything that was in her recipes so she could ensure that no one made X like mama. Too bad she didn't realize no one would make it like her even if she gave them most explicit instructions possible. A whole way of cooking has now been lost to her children as a result.

posted by latenac on July 20th 2009 at 8:56am
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I don't find it amazing but rather sad. I am one of those that wasn't taught to cook..my Mother hated it and my Grandparents were already deceased when I was born. As someone who loves to cook I long to have my Grandmother's cookie recipe or spaghetti or whatever.

posted by alexis on July 20th 2009 at 9:00am
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Everyone has a different style in the kitchen. I was fortunate enough to be immersed in the oral tradition of my grandmother’s kitchen and the cookbook modeled meals of my mother’s dinner table. You can read the whole story here….

http://gabrielaskitchen.wordpress.com/about-gabriela/

posted by gabrielaskitchen on July 20th 2009 at 9:20am
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Whenever I ask my (Japanese) mother for recipes, I basically only learn the ingredients when she says things like "just use a little bit of this and some of this and that." And I ask, "how much?" and she replies, "you have to taste it".

posted by sunrei on July 20th 2009 at 9:45am
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I generally only use recipes the first couple times I am cooking a new recipe with unfamiliar spices or seasonings. Some spices that are strongly flavored definitely need that initial measured recipe.. star anise comes to mind.. =D

But after you've cooked something a couple times.. guesstimation works pretty good!

posted by irry on July 20th 2009 at 10:11am
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My father taught me to cook when I was home one summer from college. We never used recipes, but he covered lots of techniques, like making a roux, or how to tell when a piece of meat is done. And he taught me some basic spices, which spices capture the essence of different cuisines, and how much to use, and how to taste what's missing.

His lessons on techniques and flavors (with a little supplemental education from Alton Brown) have made me a very intuitive cook. Even when I use a recipe, I seldom follow it perfectly, using it more for basic guidelines on time or temperature. I hope I can pass this cooking oral tradition down to my children (when I have some) as well.

Now I'm working on becoming a more intuitive baker, but sadly don't have a good teacher. Cookbooks help, especially those that take to the time to explain a bit of the why of baking, rather than just reciting recipes (again Alton Brown is a great inspiration). Still, I wish I had a bit of oral tradition to help me out there too.

posted by MrsCatbird on July 20th 2009 at 11:59am
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I asked my mom how long to cook something the other day and she said "oh you'll know when it's done." That's generally how all of the Indian recipes that I get from my parents or parent-types come to me. Often, it's just a laundry list of ingredients with no specific measurements.

The funny thing is, I did just know when it was done.

posted by nithya at hungrydesi on July 20th 2009 at 2:15pm
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My mother always made me stand and watch her as she cooked. I didn't help and we didn't talk about what she was making, I was just supposed to watch. I am in my early twenties now and I've turned into a pretty decent cook, but I didn't realize just how influenced by my mother I was until recently. I was home on a visit when she called form the grocery store and asked me to get dinner started by chopping the onions she left out "her way". I told her I had no idea what she meant by that and just chopped the onions how I would normally, but when she got home she looked at them and chided me for giving her a hard time. I had chopped the onions exactly as she would have.

posted by nbrantley989 on July 20th 2009 at 2:55pm
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I'm mostly a private cook - in the sense that I learn by myself (mostly online). While I long for the recipes my elders made, I look them up online - they never really taught me as such. I did work for a few years at my father's shop so learned some of the dishes he cooked there.

posted by buda on July 20th 2009 at 7:31pm
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I cook a lot by feel, and although I use recipes a lot of times I just "wing it" based on what I've seen my grandma do, or what I've seen various cooking teachers do that I've learned with. once you watch someone do it, and cooked alongside them, you don't really need a recipe. I'm a firm believer in the "add rice until it looks like more than the meat" school of cooking.

posted by DCarl1 on July 21st 2009 at 11:38am
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All too often parents either don't know how to cook or don't teach. My family was more in the latter group--although my mom did teach me a number of useful basic techniques. I also learned just by eating and tasting and seeing the food; my taste and style of cooking is somewhat similar to my mom's as a result. I use recipes to expand my repertoire, since I'm not satisfied with just what I know now. My mother did something similar.

posted by sphinxie on July 26th 2009 at 3:27pm
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