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Food Blog News: Tastespotting Is No More

2008_06_13-Tastespotting.jpgWhat the... While going through our daily blog reads last night, we visited Tastespotting and discovered that the entire site has been taken down. In its place is a handwritten note from founder Jean Aw:

 
 

She says that due to "recent legal complications" Tastespotting will no longer be hosted by NOTCOT.

This makes us sadder than we can say - Tastespotting was a brilliantly visual way to browse the overwhelming amount of food blog content available these days. There's so much out there, and it's hard to get around to all the fantastic blogs posting delicious food.

We loved the visual menu that Tastespotting provided, and the easy way in to new writers, new photographers, and new ways of looking at food.

Does anyone know what happened? Our wild harebrained guess is that one or two disgruntled food bloggers or photographers have missed the larger point (wide exposure on the internet through sharing of photos) and sued for damages from having their photos linked on Tastespotting. We are guessing that NOTCOT has felt that the site is not worth the hassle these few cause. But that is totally a guess, given our own experience of the fast-moving and shifting new ground of ethics and photography rights in the online media space.

Tastespotting - come back! We miss you already...

(Image: Tastespotting and NOTCOT)

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I am so sad! I check this site a couple of times a day, especially when it's a really slow day at work. It's a bummer when (if as speculated) a few grumpy people ruin it for the majority.

I might have to go cry now.

There have been (already) rumors of someone starting up a similar site, btw.

posted by kls987 on 2008-06-13 08:45:30
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I'm so super sad! That website was one of my newest favorite discoveries. And now it's gone! And the sad thing is that there is no way to even look at archives to write down some of my favorite bloggers' websites.

Yesterday I kept on re-freshing the website in hopes of seeing new recipes posted, but no such luck.

posted by orchidgirl1979 on 2008-06-13 08:56:39
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That totally sucks, my guess is that they were hotlinking the photos which basically causes all of the bandwith to come from the people they were linking to every time and image comes up whether you visit their site or not. If people pay for bandwith we are talking real dollars here with no ad revenue. Hotlinking isn't illegal yet but its very borderline. Ideally they would just support the image files themselves or though something like photobucket and then provide a relevant link. This could be done in a totally legit way if someone put some effort into it. Again this is just speculation but given that clicking on an image took you to the appropriate website it looked like hotlinking to me.

posted by sally599 on 2008-06-13 09:40:10
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Oh, I am so sorry to hear that. Tastespotting was a constant source of cooking inspiration.

posted by lisapeet on 2008-06-13 10:18:07
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this is hugely disappointing. and i'm kicking myself for not having bookmarked more recipes.

posted by vanessa.vichitvadakan on 2008-06-13 10:27:08
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That's so depressing. It seems like there are some simple UI changes they can make to get around this, but I guess they figure it's not worth the hassle. I hope whoever caused this can handle the responsibility of making the entire Internet sad.

posted by aoede on 2008-06-13 10:32:04
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this is the saddest news EVER...i think im gonna go cry in a corner now. =(

posted by sassysprite on 2008-06-13 10:51:38
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sally, I've submitted stuff to tastespotting before, and I don't think it's hotlinking. You provide a separate file for the photo, and then a link to where the photo is from.

This just sucks. I went there every day!!

posted by ironstef on 2008-06-13 10:55:25
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One note - they definitely weren't hotlinking; you had to upload a photo to Tastespotting itself in order to submit. So everything was hosted on their own bandwidth.

posted by faith on 2008-06-13 11:01:31
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It's amazing how far reaching this "site assassination" has been! I wonder if we'll ever find out the details of what happened and if we'll ever have anything as good as tastespotting was.

posted by OneWallKitchen on 2008-06-13 11:02:10
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I've been in mourning all morning over this.

posted by babbling on 2008-06-13 11:03:50
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Well, if its not hotlinking then I have no idea what the legal issues could be, if its just an issue of control over images and whatnot I don't think its any different than a google image search in which case the legal answer was simply providing people with a piece of code allowing them to opt out. The code thing wouldn't work here but there has to be some way of screening the links against a list of sites which have opted out. I wish they would let us know whats going on. I'm sure there is a tenable solution for this.

posted by sally599 on 2008-06-13 11:48:30
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Okay, I don't know what went on with Tastespotting, but I'd like to clear up some misconceptions.

Google images is considered fair use because it's a thumbail. Sites can opt out of image search (or any search) by placing appropriate code on their site. Many do.

Tastespotting was using 250 px photos, not a thumbail and there was no "opt out" code.

Some bloggers do not want free advertising and many do not want their images reposted (often with credit errors or incomplete credit). Further, tastespotting was not blocked for google image search, which meant that a photographer the lost control of that image when it was reposted (and might be credited when reposted from there but as often happens, it would be credited to tastespotting, not to the originator).

As for opting out, last I heard, Tastespotting did not have a blacklist for bloggers who did not wish to be featured. Not to mention the fact that copyright does not require that someone opt out of having it violated. It should have been incumbent upon Tastespotting to develop a "safe list" of bloggers who opted in for reposting of their material. Or contacting those and asking permission. It was a curated site, not everything submitted would be posted.

Yes, that's a solution, but it's a heck of a lot more work than just going into a queue and picking out pretty things and clicking "okay".

posted by cybele on 2008-06-13 12:43:52
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I'm so upset over this. Tastespotting was my daily dose of food porn and I was addicted!

Tastespotting....please come back!

posted by gina bina on 2008-06-13 12:52:25
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how was it different from the regular notcot site? people are more protective of their food photos?

I'm so very disappointed that tastespotting is gone....

posted by gleam on 2008-06-13 13:54:34
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I know they didn't have an opt out I'm suggesting that they provide one which should clear up some of the legalities. Opt in is about impossible. When it comes to the net, putting anything online assumes risk. You can disable the ability of people to right click your photos, ie like locking your doors. If you leave an unlocked car on the street you should expect it to get stolen whether its "the law" or not, this kind of thing has to be enforced on both sides to be effective.

posted by sally599 on 2008-06-13 14:00:21
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I'm very confused by the "legal issues" as well. I would have thought that their use of single images to encourage you to link to a site were completely under fair use. It's a single image, it's not replicating the food article, and it generally had a short review or comment. It was little different, really, from a newspaper using a single image and blurb to give a short, positive comment on a local art show or movie.

In all likelihood what they're doing is legal, but they don't have the money to hire lawyers every single time someone gets their panties in a twist.

As for the people who hate being linked... how odd. Understandable, of course, but this is also the Internet. If you don't want to be seen by the world, keep a journal locked down to friends.

posted by Kaete on 2008-06-13 14:30:46
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This is such sad news. I was wondering why my Reader hadn't pulled up any Tastespotting today. =-(

posted by asarno1 on 2008-06-13 23:43:45
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As someone already explained, food bloggers shouldn't have to specifically opt out to prevent people from using their images. That would require them to have knowledge that Tastespotting existed and while it might be unimaginable to people who think it's a central food blog hub or something, you don't automatically become aware of Tastespotting the moment you post something food related on the web.

And you can't blame some people for not wanting their content being used to help get Tastespotting traffic and thus advertising profits. Tastespotting essentially doesn't generate any content of it's own and just leeches off other people's content.

I'm not saying that I didn't like Tastespotting. I checked it pretty regularly. I'm just not ready to blame whoever it was that generated the legal issues for Notcot/Tastespotting. There are other perspectives to consider first. And clearly we don't know the whole story.

posted by wunami on 2008-06-14 01:37:48
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I thought tastespotting was user submitted? They went and grabbed stuff from people's blogs?

posted by SleepyDweller on 2008-06-16 08:53:27
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SleepyDweller - some bloggers submitted their own work, others submitted their favorite posts they'd spotted - so until the visitors started coming to "spotted" site, the blogger had no idea they were featured there.

(Some bloggers did not wish to have their photos placed on tastespotting, because they weren't always credited within the text, only via the link - which as we all know, is not adequate in the era of "I found it on the net, it's free.")

posted by cybele on 2008-06-16 11:18:44
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If image use were an issue, why are the other Not Cot sites still up and running? I feel like there has to be something else...

And in fact I read that a particular troll was using Tastespotting as an entry point to a number of food blogs that he would then terrorize in comments.

Perhaps that, combined with concerns over the source of the content, pushed Tastespotting over the cliff.

posted by chowbella on 2008-06-16 13:05:00
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Aw, man. This kinda sucks. I've recently become semi-vegetarian (I still eat fish) and I loved the amount of veg recipes featured on Tastespotting. In fact, any time I wanted cooking inspiration I'd go there... 90% of the recipes I've made in the last year, I've found on there first. I loved being able to search, and see the images of the food before looking at the full recipe... Help me, Tastespotting! You're my only hope!

posted by meganificent on 2008-06-16 14:22:42
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Hello!

Please check out our new site: Foodie Fest at http://foodiefest.tumblr.com

We hope to fill the void left by Tastespotting's absence.

Check us out and spread the news!

Thanks!

posted by foodiefest on 2008-06-16 23:01:35
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Foodgawker.com is taking off, pass the word. They site will still be undergoing construction as things are set up, but it looks like it just might fill the TS void.

posted by bhbryant on 2008-06-16 23:42:49
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